Professional Development? 

Learning in and through Practice

Episode 2-3: Professional Development? Learning in and through Practice 

Show Notes 


Have you ever taken the time to really listen to teachers talk about their work, about their joys and frustrations, and about how they grow as they work together?   This episode is an opportunity to do just that.   Bailey teachers talk about their experience and offer wisdom for all of us as they do so. 



00:00 Introduction to the Second Season Dr. Barbara Stengel 

01:25 Introduction to Professional Development? The Bailey Experience Stengel 

03:55 Bailey’s Team Structure as the Engine of Professional Development  Stengel, Keisha Harding, Bailey Teacher Leader now a STEM Consultant; Emily Prendergrass, Associate Professor of the Practice of Teaching Reading, Peabody College 

14:20 TLUS as a Vehicle for Learning Together to be Prepared, Not Scared Stengel, Harding, Pendergrass  

24:05 More Relational Capacity: The Synergistic Role of Residents  Stengel, Lindsey Nelson, Dean of Academics; Kenan Kerr, resident, 8 year teacher, now curriculum consultant;  Julia Konrad, resident, 5 year teacher, now Head of Education Research in NYC Independent Budget Office 

40:05 Job-Embedded Teachers:  The Answer to Shortages?  Stengel, Nelson, Kerr, Konrad 

47:58 Why Aren’t These Teachers Still in the Classroom? Stengel, Nelson, Kerr, Konrad 

54:28 What Does Teacher Learning Look Like in the Good School?  And How Can We Fund THAT? Stengel 

57:15 Next Time:  “Parents Rights”:  Politically Volatile but Educationally Important?  Not So Much Stengel 



Many thanks to the guests who agreed to inform our thinking for this episode!   These include Emily Pendergrass, Keisha, Harding, Lindsey Nelson, Julia Konrad, and Kenan Kerr. 


As usual, there are references to a variety of social, educational and historical news and commentary. You can pursue our sources and find out more about these issues at our website:




The first season of Chasing Bailey is a podcast about a group of teachers, leaders, and others who dedicated themselves to changing the fortunes of a failing middle school in Nashville TN from 2012 to 2016. They succeeded, but their achievement was bittersweet. 

In 2016, the district closed that school. Still, those who were there knew they had stumbled onto something special, some important educational truths that might help all of us find our way out of the morass that COVID 19 has left us in.

Chasing Bailey’s second season explores those “important education truths” as we think through some of the challenges that all teachers, leaders, and students face.  We consult some of your favorite Chasing Bailey characters, but we also talk with educators in other schools around the country.  As always, our focus will be on the experience of educating and being educated.

Our Host is Barb Stengel, an emerita professor of educational practice at Vanderbilt University’s Peabody College, and also emerita professor at Millersville University. She is an educator, a self-described fan of the Bailey experiment, and an advocate for public schooling but a strong critic of how public schooling has strayed from educational intentions. 

Between 2012 and 2016, Barb spent one day a week at Bailey, coordinating the school’s collaboration with Peabody, and serving as an informal cheerleader while also learning from this remarkable effort. She knew early on it was a story worth telling. So she spent a year interviewing dozens of staff, students, parents, and district administrators who were eager to talk about their experiences.  

Barb is now retired from Vanderbilt University but she continues to find ways to highlight the work of educators and to criticize (constructively) the figures and forces that get in educators’ way. 




Chasing Bailey is hosted and narrated by Dr. Barbara Stengel, Vanderbilt University. 


This episode was edited and co-produced by Samuel Deacon and Brenna Fallon with support (especially with distribution and social media) by Ruby Mundok.   The executive producer is Dr. Lowery Woodall, Millersville University of Pennsylvania. 


Our theme for Season 2 is Folk Music 2 by Caffeine Creek Band.  In addition, we have incorporated the following musical tracks:   

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